Podcast: Play in new window

Subscribe: Spotify | RSS

In this conversation, I sit down with Pastor Jerry Flowers Jr. to explore the powerful intersection of therapy, theology, healing, and personal transformation. As someone who deeply cares about the whole person—heart, soul, mind, and strength—this conversation stirred me. Jerry has a gift for making emotional health and spiritual maturity work together instead of apart.

We talk about how Therapy Thursday began—right in the middle of a counseling session, when Jerry realized trauma was so loud in people’s hearts that they couldn’t even hear biblical truth anymore. 

That moment launched a ministry movement that now reaches millions. Jerry shares why healing isn’t simply “reading a scripture and moving on,” but requires practical steps, emotional honesty, and sometimes unlearning the cultural messages that formed us.

 

We talk about renewing the mind, not in a vague spiritual sense, but as an intentional process of noticing your thoughts, filtering automatic beliefs, and anchoring your mind in what is true and biblically aligned. Jerry explains why many people can’t move forward—because they’re still interpreting everything through trauma, offense, old wounds, cluttered thoughts, or inherited lies.

He also shares his own journey through betrayal in ministry—what hurt him, what healed him, and why he had to learn the difference between preaching and pastoring, between people-pleasing and people-managing.

We dig into community, why we need it, and why many people say they “can’t find it.” Jerry challenges our cultural tendency to call everything toxic and offers wisdom about discomfort vs. danger, growth vs. harm, and how God uses community to train, strengthen, and sharpen us.

This conversation is rich, practical, and deeply rooted in Scripture—and it might be the permission and clarity someone needs to finally begin the healing process.

 

Highlights from Today’s Episode

  • Learning to renew your mind 
  • Identifying relational patterns 
  • Reframing community and boundaries

Related Resources

Click to Post

 

Other Stuff to Check Out

Let’s Talk!

  1. What have you noticed in your life that might be “trauma yelling louder than truth”?
  2. Which relationships in your life might need a “relational autopsy”?
  3. What is one belief you need to unlearn in order to heal?

 

Connect with me…​

Follow: Instagram| Twitter | Facebook| YouTube​

Listen: iTunes | Android | Google | Spotify| Stitcher​

Support: Monthly Donation | One-Time Donation | Swag

​

How to Listen to The Podcast

If you’re new to podcasts, think of them like little radio shows that you can listen to at your convenience. They are perfect to listen to and learn from as you workout, fold laundry, wash dishes or conquer the world.

1. Listen right here on the blog. Click the little play button at the beginning of this post.

2. Listen on iTunes or Stitcher or Google Play! – Be sure and subscribe so you don’t miss an episode! Also, if you would be so kind as to leave a rating on iTunes and/or write a 2-3 sentence review there or on Stitcher?  Your commentary or rating helps make the podcast more “findable” by others who might not know it exists!

3. Share today’s show –   Email the link to a friend or share on social media. Just click on the sharing buttons at the bottom of this post!

You have been so great to join me on the journey here on the blog, I hope you jump right in and do the same on the podcast!